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Bob
Oertel - COPS/Fondren
Jim White - Fondren Presby Church & COPS
Ann White - P4 Resident
Belmont Trapp - Fondren & COPS
Bill Osborne - Belhaven IA & Habitat
Mike Clark - P4 Resident
Elta Livingston - P4 Resident
V.A. Patterson - P4 Resident
David Adkins - P4 Resident
Niles Hooper - P4 Resident
Chas Brenner - P4 Resident
Buddy Graham - FRF President
J.T. Noblin - Fondren Resident & Business Owner
John Dickson - Fondren Resident & Business Owner
Lou Brase - Keep Jackson Beautiful
Margaret Bucci- Wildwood North/Sun Valley
Joyce Caracci- Riverwood Assoc.
Tippy Garner- Colonial Home Owners Assc.
Lloyd Hocott- Northtown Association
Scott Overby - P4 Resident & Fondren Merchant
Genny Seeley- ASJN, JAN
Steve Seeley - ASJN
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JPD
Asst. Chief Roy Sandefer
JPD Commander Brent Winstead
JPD QoL Officer Barbara Folsom
JPD QoL Officer Katina Brooks
Bruce Thames - CoJ Public Works
Marshand Crisler - CoJ Council President
Michael Raff - CoJ Quality of Life
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The Precinct 4 Community Oriented Policing & Government group
(COPS) met at the Precinct 4 Headquarters at 5:30 p.m. on Thursday,
February 23, 2006.
Bob Oertel called the meeting to order and led us through introductions.
Environmental
Court
The Environmental Court report was very short in the absence of
Jeff Anderson. Quality of Life (QoL) Officer Barbara Folsom did
report that steps were being taken to end the dumping of appliances
on North State Street near County Line Road. We are still seeking
recourse regarding habitual code violators. The law is written so
that you can fine and jail offenders for having substandard conditions
in a structure or on a lot, but you cannot take their property away
from them unless they have a lien on the property for 3 years. So,
if they pay the fines, there is little we can further do. The only
other possibility is having the property owner evaluated and found
mentally incompetent to manage the property.
Ask the Commander/COMSTAT
In "Ask the Commander," Commander Brent Winstead explained
that COMSTAT is a mapping of crimes that guides JPD in determining
where officers must patrol. It should be remembered that COMSTAT
is a compilation of "reported" crimes. After crimes are
investigated, the designation may be changed based on the law and
the actual nature of the crime. In other words, the initial COMSTAT
reports may not be the same as crime statistics reported later since
the later reports record the actual crimes and their designation
instead of the initial reported crime (a rape report may turn out
to be an assault or deemed consensual and a strong-arm robbery may
be changed to armed robbery, based on the investigation).
The Fondren area has had trouble with a man in a Mitsubishi pickup
robbing homes and garages. He was apprehended recently. Various
communication strategies helped identify and apprehend this criminal
who has targeted Fondren, Belhaven, and other neighborhoods by going
up driveways and into carports and freely helping himself to others
possessions. If engaged, the thief would casually state that he
was looking for an address or a Mrs. Johnson or side jobs and would
leave promptly. The items recovered will be photographed for use
as evidence and owners determined.
The I-55 Corridor is the area of greatest concern. There continues
to be a lot of auto burglaries. Because of a number of cars robbed
at Hallmark Toyota, Palm Brides Apartments, various other apartment
complexes, and even one gated community (how did they get in is
a major question), the total number of crimes will be very high.
As is normally the case, the number of auto burglaries at motels
and apartments in the I-55 corridor is very high and is a primary
concern of Precinct 4. Be careful with all of your access codes!
He noted that anyone could view the weekly COMSTAT reports at Precinct
4 Headquarters. Just drop in and ask. Asst. Chief Sandefer noted
that the JPD website is being constructed. It will contain all COMSTAT
reports when it is functional.
Asst. Chief Roy Sandefer was asked about the Mayor's focus on strip
clubs and adult bookstores. He noted there are city ordinances governing
the operation of such businesses. When they do not operate in compliance
with these ordinances, they are cited and closed if the number of
violations is excessive.
The importance of enforcing the codes for these businesses is related
to the "Broken Window Theory" in which you enforce small
laws in order to raise the level of compliance with law in all areas
of civic life. A broken window in a building that goes un-repaired
invites more and more broken windows that leads to more and more
lawlessness because of the lack of concern about small things that
matter.
Asst. Chief Sandefer noted that the crime rate is going down. He
also affirmed there is movement toward getting another judge. Several
other residents observed they thought there has been a reduction
in the number of prostitutes in and around Jackson. Asst. Chief
Sandefer told of experiences while going undercover in various adult
bookstores. It was also observed that a number of prostitutes posing
as women are really men.

City Council President Marshand Crisler
CoJ Council President Marshand Crisler noted he is in his last semester
of a Master's degree. He had limited time to address us because
of classes and scheduling. In his opening remarks, he also thanked
Fondren resident/businessman John Dickson for the 18-page letter
he brought to the COPS meeting last month and provided for Mr. Crisler.
The letter details a number of concerns about enforcement of laws
and/or the lack of laws (such as noise ordinances) in Jackson that
cause him problems as a landlord.
Mr. Crisler noted that the Sheriff's Department will be working
with the COPS program to create crime prevention workshops. We hope
to have one on the next few months.
He spoke at length about the adult entertainment industry. He noted
it is a legal and legitimate business that we cannot make illegal
because of our federal laws and the need to respect the rights of
all citizens. There are, however, a variety of ordinances regulating
this business. When there are infractions, the letter of the law
must be followed. In response to concerns expressed by citizens
about the very existence of such businesses, he noted they are located
in a confined place in the entertainment district and away from
residential areas. He also noted we do not have to visit such establishments.
When asked about legislative barriers to enforcing the judgments
of the Environmental Court, Mr. Crisler turned to the complaints
in John Dickson's 18-page complaint.
Regarding the loud noise issue, he noted Jackson has no noise ordinance,
because Jackson doesn't have machines to measure decibel levels.
It was noted such devices can be purchased at Radio Shack for $20.
It was noted that these crimes tend to be crimes of opportunity
in that the sound is turned down when the Police arrive. He also
noted citizens can become certified operators of noise-measuring
devices. Once so certified, they only have to sign an affidavit
to bring the matter to court. We then got back to reality and he
noted that signing an affidavit is all that is necessary for "disturbing
the peace" issues. Citizens do have this option, but it does
require that you fill out the proper paperwork, sign it, and be
willing to testify against the defendant in the matter. Most folks
after understanding the full commitment that it takes to go this
route do not follow the matter.
Mr. Dickson inquired about stopping the noise quickly during the
middle of the night when his tenants want to get some sleep. Asst.
Chief Sandefer noted there is a new ordinance coming before City
Council that meets federal requirements.
The City of Jackson also has an ordinance regarding public profanity.
Again, signing an affidavit is all that is needed, plus the willingness
to show up in court. But if the profanity is from a radio/CD player,
the charge must be "disturbing the peace" and not "public
profanity" because the defendant must be actively engaged in
the lewd language or actions.
In response to numerous questions, it was pointed out that if laws
made it too easy to stop some of these behaviors, the laws would
also make it possible for people to abuse the law by filing bogus
complaints.
Passing over Mr. Dickson's concern about city bus drivers, Mr.
Crisler noted the concern about residents parking on lawns. He came
back to this point later. He indicated this is a visual violation
and an officer can write a ticket on the spot. He charged the city
with ignoring the law and urged police officers to "get out
of their cars." Later it was reported that over 1,000 tickets
have been issued in Precinct 4 for cars parked on lawns and over
250 cars have been towed, suggesting, at the very least, that Precinct
4 Quality of Life Officers do get out of their cars quite often.
The city ordinance regarding illegal parking requires that a sticker
be placed on the car for a certain number of days, a picture taken
of it, and a variety of other steps be taken before it can be ticketed.
After all, our community has a high respect for what citizens can
do on their property.
The Committee asked Mr. Crisler to address a major concern which
is how to deal with property owners who have appeared in Environmental
Court, fined, even sentenced to jail time, served jail time, and
paid fines, yet still have done nothing to improve their properties.
Suggesting that the city has exhausted its legislative process,
he turned the spotlight on the court system in which there is only
one Environmental Court judge, though a second one may be in the
offing. It was noted, however, that while this may explain the time
it takes to bring such cases to trial, it does not explain the inability
of the city to get compliance with people who exhibit traits of
mental instability. Mr. Crisler noted the state has a cap on the
fines that can be levied ($1,500). But the city can put a lien against
properties with unpaid fines. If the fines are paid, however, the
city is powerless.
He also commented how encouraged he was by the number of neighborhoods
represented at the meeting.

Drainage Issues
Bruce Thames of Public Works noted he had talked to David Willis
about a bond issue scheduled for 2007 to deal with the Eubanks Creek
and other drainage problems in Precinct 4. The problems are varied:
Current design and infrastructure, obstructions in the creek, problems
upstream, and residents who dump leaves and other yard trash in
the storm drains. A wag suggested those who dump leaves in the storm
drains and then complain tend to be the same people who leave car
keys in the ignition of unlocked cars on the street and then complain
when their cars are stolen.
Members of Precinct 4 COPS noted the importance of supporting the
bond and providing encouragement to Ward 7 Councilwoman Margaret
Barrett-Simon and our other representatives in promoting a good
bond plan.
It was suggested that neighborhood associations could get stencils
for storm drains stating that these drains are "Not Sewers-
Flow Directly Into Creeks" for the storm drains in their neighborhoods
to remind residents not to clog them with yard trash. Also, the
City of Jackson is trying to do a better job of responding to complaints
of clogged drains.

Genny Seeley - Neighborhood Involvement
Genny Seeley of the Association of South Jackson Neighborhoods and
the Jackson Association of Neighborhoods spoke of her efforts to
involve residents of South Jackson to revitalize their area. She
commended a book that inspired her, "Building Communities From
the Inside Out: A Path Toward Finding and Mobilizing a Community's
Assets" by John L. McKnight and published by John P. Kretzmann/John
L. McKnight. Google John L. McKnight to find a copy or go straight
to Amazon.com.
She gave all attending a copy of the "ASJN
Vision and Goals."
She announced a Monday, March 6 meeting in the Hood Building featuring
leaders in the Great American Clean Up.
She told of her own involvement. It began when an affordable housing
apartment complex was announced for her single-family dwelling neighborhood.
She tried to fight the complex but it was too little too late. She
decided never to be caught in this trap again. She now reads many
of the legal ads every day, especially those dealing with zoning
issues and liquor license applications.
She noted three primary tasks:
- Informing people- most folks think the city wants to protect
them from improper or stupid projects. That is not always the
case, however.
- Empower people- a lot of folks don't think they can make a difference.
She was a neophyte and is learning as she goes. One person can
make have a profound influence.
- Network with people who can help. She told of learning that
she had to get to know Belmont Trapp. Now she does and it has
made a big difference.
She sounded like German theologian Martin Niemoller's famous quotation
"First They Came for the Communists" in affirming that
if it can happen in her neighborhood it can happen in your neighborhood.
If South Jackson and West Jackson go to ruin, so will Belhaven,
Fondren, and Northeast Jackson.
She urged us and groups of us to show up at Council meetings. Politicians
will listen.
It was noted that we have enough smart people to figure out how
to get laws and ordinances changed. As the saying goes, "People
are our best asset."
Questions were asked regarding neighborhood associations. We have
long lists of such groups but not all have been reached. Also, Goldia
Revies has promised to provide us with a list of media contacts.
Also, we have maps of JPD precincts, City Council wards, MS House
districts, senate districts, and the like. It was noted that associations
need to strike a balance in dealing with neighborhood specific issues
and working with larger organizations for common goals.

Closing Issues and Comments
Bob Oertel reminded us of a hurricane recovery workshop April 3-5
in Baton Rouge. The Gulf Coast Community Oriented Policing Institute
(GSRCPI) is providing incentives for interdisciplinary teams and
individuals. We are unsure if there are free rooms left in the program.
Go to the GCRCPI website for more information. http://www.gsrcpi.org/hurricane
Also, the 2006 edition of the JPD Citizens' Police Academy will
begin March 6.
For information call Linda Woolley at 601.960.1389.
Fondren is having a First Annual Town Hall Meeting on Monday, February
27, at 6:00, at Duling School.
It was noted that neighborhood covenants can make a big difference,
though, as we have discussed in today's meeting, there are some
problems and some people who defy all reason.
The next meeting of Precinct 4 COPS will be on Thursday, March
23, at 5:30, at the Precinct 4 Headquarters at North State Street
at Patton Avenue.
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